Tour groups inconvenience Defoe-Graham residents

Some students are asking for changes to the way tours are conducted.

Published Nov. 6, 2009

The influx of campus visitors brought on by Black and Gold Days and Meet Mizzou irks some residents of the Defoe-Graham residence hall.

"I can understand how they want to showcase the newer dorms because they're in better quality, and better condition," sophomore Defoe-Graham resident Liz Hartnett said. "But honestly, I was woken up by one today, and I didn't appreciate it at all."

Hartnett said though the problem has only been intolerable on Black and Gold Days, she has had many embarrassing incidents.

"There were times where I'll be in the bathroom showering, and there'll be a giant tour group in front of the bathroom that I have to walk through in a towel," Hartnett said. "It's awkward for both me and the tour groups. That's happened multiple times."

Both Hartnett and sophomore Defoe-Graham resident Peter Jones said they understood the importance of including residence halls in a tour of campus.

"I have no problem with the tour groups wanting to see our dorm," Jones said. "However, the way in which they're organized is fairly inconvenient."

The tour groups enter through the main entrance of Defoe-Graham, tour the lobby and see two designated showrooms. One room is suite style; the other is community living style, with separate bedrooms but shared living space and bathrooms.

Jones said the organization of the tour groups could be better.

"They tend to congregate in the lobby area," Jones said. "The tour guides move them in, and make them stop. So, it's a solid mass of people between the elevator and the door. So you can't get to your mailbox."

The central location and recent renovation contributed to selection of Defoe-Graham residence hall as the only hall showcased, MU tour guide Theo Keith said.

Residential Life Director Frankie Minor said, "We appreciate the residents' patience with us.”

Minor said Residential Life is overseeing the tours as a pilot program that will be evaluated at the end of the year for effectiveness. The program will also adapt as the year progresses, he said.

The community living and suite-style rooms are both located in Defoe-Graham residence hall this year, as opposed to last year when they were in two different buildings.

Minor said tour guides keep residents in mind when touring the residence hall.

"We're trying to do our best," Minor said. "We let the tour groups know that the building is not offline, we've only got one or two rooms that are offline to show them, and that these are real live residents, and to please be considerate."

Minor said the program is still new and needs to run for a year to observe results. He also mentioned the possibility of using Hawthorn residence hall for tours as well but didn't want tours to affect more residents than necessary.

"We recognize that there is a small level of inconvenience, and our commitment is to make that as small as possible for the residents," Minor said.

The next Meet Mizzou Day is set for Nov. 14.

Both Jones and Hartnett said smaller tour group sizes would be beneficial.

"Ultimately, tour groups are the only way to show people a dorm," Jones said. "They just need to learn to manage them better."

Jones acknowledged the legitimacy of the tour groups but did not hide his frustration.

"I shouldn't have to fight past 40 people on my way out the door, who are very poorly arranged," Jones said. "I think that if they're going to put them here, they need to get their shit together, for lack of a better term."

Comments (2)

11:26 a.m., Nov. 6, 2009

Brandon said:

Spot on! ResLife really needs to plan these things better. I couldn't tell you how often I got annoyed at this crap (and still do). Of course, I do remember a LOT more of these tour groups when I lived at Discovery Hall last year. I REALLY hate when the tour guides let them use the elevators right when you yourself get back to the dorm after class or work. God, that's irritating. Then you gotta wait for all the people to get on the elevator and the elevator to go up one floor before you can press it and wait for it to come back down. Sometimes I actually took the stairs out of impatience b/c of this. Seriously, ResLife, get your sh*t together.

8:49 p.m., Nov. 16, 2009

Allie said:

In response to Brandon, if taking the stairs is seriously the worst thing that comes of this, that's really pathetic. Tours have to be done, and frankly, there is no other choice. Just think about when you were touring schools and how important seeing a residence hall was...how would you have appreciated it if people had said, "Oh, sorry, the residents here don't want you using the elevator." To the bathroom quote, what are the tour guides supposed to do? CALL you and say, "Hey, we're coming?" You live in community style. Deal with it. Also, when was the last time you saw 40 people on one tour? And really, where else are they going to be able to congregate besides the lobby? It's called a freaking LOBBY for a reason. How about they congregate upstairs outside your room instead? Really, people. Get something better to complain about. And if you're really going to complain about having to wait two minutes to get your mail, that's just plain sad. I'd really like to see any of us be able to arrange or give tours better. Why don't you people just realize that this is the only impression of Mizzou prospective students get...and get OVER yourselves. And I would call the person who wrote this story a journalist, but they cover both sides of the story. You talked to ONE tour guide, and you didn't even ask him anything important. How about you confront him with some of the quotes you were so keen on including? I'm sure they would've been able to give you more than enough comments, but you just chose to make this story one big bitch piece. Ugh.

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